in a playback scenario, okay, charlie, turn over, action, 4, 3, 2, 1, oh, no, charlie you're out, just the tinniest bit, go again. it's not a great place to start on the emotional journey. >> rose: this really is better for the actors. >> oh my gosh, it's like having the handcuffs taken off. i actually did a production of oklahoma which we filmed. and we were told the only way to do it was to lip sync to it. and i remember t was a brutal experience because it was actually from the soundtrack which we had previously done nine months before. so i had been playing the role for nine months. i felt like it was a whole different character, by the time we went to do it i was so hamstrung by that performance. with tom i was totally on board. because of course there are challenges, but ultimately it gives you such freedom as an acker to be spontaneous to actually act the piece rather than-- to ever feel like are you singing it. >> rose: are you most at home in these musicals and places where you can sing and dance? >> you know, wordly, i was a theatre graduate like-- there was a musical theatre